In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Dr. Bu—a creator, consultant, facilitator, educator, social critic, and values alignment coach who explores the realities of workplace trauma, systemic shifts, and the path toward personal liberation. Together, they explore what it means to navigate systemic rollbacks in diversity and equity work, the art of reclaiming personal confidence after career disruptions, and how to protect your labor, health, and joy amidst challenging economic and political landscapes.

After witnessing decades of progress in equity initiatives give way to severe legislative rollbacks, administrative cuts, and widespread layoffs, Trudi connects with Dr. Bu to examine the existential loss and betrayal felt by practitioners dedicated to systemic change. Grounded in her doctoral research on why Black women leave higher education diversity spaces, Dr. Bu shares how she has intentionally reshaped her focus around values alignment, community care, and holistic wellbeing.

Recognizing how many purpose-driven professionals struggle with burnout, institutional dissonance, and identity shifts, Trudi brings Dr. Bu on to dissect the internal shifts required to protect your energy, embrace non-linear career paths, and claim your personal freedom.

• The Impact of Institutional Disruption: Dr. Bu opens up about navigating repeated layoffs, rescinded job offers, and the toll these experiences took on her professional confidence, highlighting how institutional decisions reflect broader systemic priorities.

• Researching Workplace Departure: A look into Dr. Bu's doctoral dissertation findings on why Black diversity, equity, and inclusion practitioners leave higher education spaces, emphasizing the critical need for community, transparent support, and trauma-informed mental healthcare.

• Reframing Equity Through Values Alignment: Dr. Bu shares her evolution away from co-opted corporate terminology toward values alignment coaching, helping organizations and individuals clearly articulate their core values and align their daily practices accordingly.

• Reclaiming Joy Through Childhood Roots: Trudi and Dr. Bu break down how returning to teenage interests, artistic expressions, and non-monetized hobbies serves as an essential tool for personal healing, counteracting burnout, and rebuilding community connections.

• Redefining Freedom Beyond Wealth: Insights into shifting one's relationship with work and money, exploring how genuine freedom comes from setting boundaries, declining unaligned opportunities, and engaging in low-cost community practices that foster connection and peace.

• Sustained professional evolution requires prioritizing personal values and mental health over institutional loyalty, especially when organizations fail to align with their stated commitments.

• True systemic critique involves questioning established norms, recognizing national workplace trauma, and refusing to participate in systems that sell promises without delivering security.

• Human wellbeing extends far beyond professional productivity; engaging in non-monetized hobbies, creative play, and community activities is vital for holistic health and identity.

Dr. Bu, creator, consultant, facilitator, educator, social critic, and values alignment coach. Holding a PhD in educational leadership, her work focuses on helping individuals and organizations articulate their core values, navigate career transitions, and build systems-aware, trauma-informed practices.

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsdrbu/

• Threads: https://www.threads.com/@itsdrbu?xmt=AQG0Hlf9tKi9RfzNzBv08wEeaiZBss-4VYLh2FBtkgafUQ0

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

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Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Jhéanell Westonberry—a romance author, filmmaker, homemaker, and lifestyle guide who tells stories where healing meets home and happily ever afters. Together, they explore what it means to step away from the relentless pressure of a successful coaching business, the profound art of returning to your creative roots, and how to navigate deep personal identity shifts without losing yourself to professional expectations.

After years of observing peers and high achievers fall into the trap of hyper-productivity, Trudi has watched Jhéanell embark on a slow, intentional journey back to her childhood artistic callings. Rooted in an entrepreneurial upbringing and an early knowing of her writer identity, Jhéanell has intentionally reshaped her life so that her work honors her true creative spirit and peaceful well-being.

Recognizing how many multidisciplinary leaders struggle to decouple their self-worth from their professional accolades, Trudi brings Jhéanell on to dissect the internal shifts required to close chapters gracefully, embrace non-linear transitions, and claim your true freedom.

• The Permission to Pause and Pivot: Jhéanell opens up about the realization that came during her most financially successful coaching year, revealing how outward success can sometimes mask an artist's inner restlessness and hunger for creative expression.

• The Journey of Creative Homecoming: A look into Jhéanell's journey through The Artist's Way, which served as a catalyst for inner child healing, helping her unlock daily writing habits and reclaim her voice after years of corporate focus.

• Vocationally Validating the Art of Homemaking: Jhéanell shares her evolution from feeling a push-and-pull shame about loving domestic spaces to proudly integrating homemaking, systems design, and hospitality into her overarching brand.

• Weaving Past Skills Into New Worlds: Trudi and Jhéanell break down how years of entrepreneurial marketing, aesthetics, and business building directly translate into crafting immersive experiences for readers and building fictional worlds.

• Identity Beyond Achievement: Insights into the themes of Jhéanell's debut novel, Promise, exploring the cathartic process of writing about characters who must find out who they are when the big paychecks, titles, and accolades slip away.

• True professional evolution requires a willingness to let chapters close when their season is done, even if that transition feels terrifying, painful, or non-linear.

• Stepping into authentic thought leadership means trusting your foundational visions, keeping faith through moments where your present reality does not yet mirror your deepest prayers.

• Human beings are entire universes within themselves; relying solely on productivity or professional achievement creates an incomplete identity that limits personal fulfillment.

Jhéanell Westonberry, romance author, filmmaker, and slow-living lifestyle guide. Formerly the founder of a highly successful astrology coaching practice, her current creative work focuses on storytelling where healing meets home, celebrating Black romance, and designing a life of sovereignty and deep personal peace.

• Website: jheanell.com

• Substack: The Westonbury Times (fiction) & Westonbury Living (nonfiction)

• My Ten Year Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A27b1jkclI

• The Artists Way by Julia Cameron
• This Could Be Us by Kennedy Ryan
• Jhéanell Westonberry books

There is an incredible power in shifting from a default state of over-concession to a state of sovereign design. Jhéanell's approach reframes boundaries from a rigid wall of restriction into a beautiful, protective container for our deepest values. When we stop trying to mind-hack our way through environments that drain us and instead build micro-habits that honor our natural pacing, we don't just protect our energy—we create the exact space necessary to step fully into our brilliance.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

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Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Jaya Rose—a visibility and branding expert, leader of the Bold Women in Business membership, and advocate for radical time freedom. Together, they explore what it means to live with uncompromising clarity, the art of designing a business around your sensory and energy needs, and how to build a powerful online presence without sacrificing your integrity to toxic industry frameworks.

After years of observing high achievers fall into the trap of burnout and hyper-productivity, Trudi has long admired Jaya's ability to maintain clear, unapologetic boundaries. Rooted in a lifelong spirit of rebellion and a deep understanding of her own later-in-life realized neurodivergence, Jaya has constructed a life where her business entirely serves her well-being, rather than the other way around.

Recognizing how many multidisciplinary leaders struggle to balance market visibility with self-protection, Trudi brings Jaya on to dissect the internal shifts required to stand firmly in your expertise, redefine boundaries, and attract your true community.

• The Freedom of Radical Rebellion: Jaya shares how a youthful spirit of non-conformity—including skipping the traditional college track for a Grateful Dead tour—allowed her to bypass societal rules and build an authentic life entirely centered on her sensitive and neurodivergent needs.

• Designing a Low-Stimulus Business: A look inside Jaya's unique operational boundaries, from refusing to use Zoom video during intensive coaching calls to maximize intuitive listening, to strictly limiting client interactions to a four-hour daily window.

• Overcoming the Scarcity Trap: Jaya reflects on her early days as a personal trainer when she felt she "sold her soul" by keeping a highly negative client out of financial fear, highlighting the critical shift from a scarcity mindset to an earned confidence in one's true gifts.

• Values-Driven Identity Marketing: Trudi and Jaya break down why standard "niche" marketing fails multidisciplinary practitioners, advocating instead for identity-based branding that rejects narcissistic, profit-first guru tropes in favor of deep value alignment.

• Boundaries as a Container of Yeses: Practical strategies for shifting your relationship with boundaries, moving away from the friction of telling people "no" and instead viewing a boundary as a protective container that holds space for your ultimate "yeses."

• True professional sustainability requires an uncompromising alignment with your physical and mental health needs, recognizing that an optimal schedule should be engineered to support your well-being.

• Stepping into bold thought leadership demands a foundation of deep self-ownership; to successfully sell your work or spark industry shifts, you must first be completely sold on yourself and willing to be your own biggest fan.

• Personal evolution and following intuition often come with the social cost of outgrowing certain relationships and dynamics, requiring a willingness to navigate identity transitions with grace.

Jaya Rose, visibility and branding strategist, founder of the Bold Women in Business membership, and former personal trainer. With over a decade of online business experience, her work focuses on helping heart-centered women take up space boldly, utilize video authentically, and build recognizable personal brands anchored in their true values.

• Website: withjayarose.com

• Instagram: @withjayarose

There is an incredible power in shifting from a default state of over-concession to a state of sovereign design. Jaya's approach reframes boundaries from a rigid wall of restriction into a beautiful, protective container for our deepest values. When we stop trying to mind-hack our way through environments that drain us and instead build micro-habits that honor our natural pacing, we don't just protect our energy—we create the exact space necessary to step fully into our brilliance.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

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Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of the podcast, Trudi sits down to share a deeply personal and reflective solo episode, capturing a significant moment of personal and professional realignment happening in real time. Together, we explore her transition from a high-energy era of hyper-focus and performance to a life rooted in presence, softness, and curiosity.

After years of building a highly successful diversity, equity, and inclusion coaching business that relied heavily on her constant presence and an unsustainable pace, Trudi faced a physical, mental, and political shift. This realization forced a reckoning with her relationship to ambition and led her to close out her previous program infrastructure in favor of a simpler, more creative, and community-focused model. This conversation is about moving away from constant output toward a deeper, more intentional way of being.

• The Reality of Viral Scaling and Burnout: Trudi shares how overnight viral success in 2020 completely shifted her business from a spacious, lean model to an overwhelming seven-figure operation fueled by stress, dopamine, and a massive team.

• The Intersections of Body and Business: A look at the unexpected convergence of perimenopause, family shifts, and newly unleashed neurodivergence (ADHD) that made past coping mechanisms impossible to sustain.

• The Weathering of a Generation: An examination of how systemic economic shifts, hustle culture, and chronic stress physically impact the body, drawing on the concepts of weathering and allostatic load.

• Five Practical Strategies for Realignment: Trudi breaks down her personal five-step behavioral and community-based strategy to break productivity loops and actively reclaim space.

• The Illusion of Enders Scaling: True professional evolution often requires recognizing when a successful structure no longer fits your personal reality and choosing simplicity over endless expansion.

• The Toll of Chronic Hypervigilance: The cumulative biological cost of always being "on" and masking neurodivergence eventually shows up in physical health, demanding structural lifestyle adjustments.

• Reevaluating Shared Ideals: Navigating modern adult stability requires doing the honest math on our goals and questioning whether past economic blueprints actually deliver the freedom they promise.

Inspirational Podcasts & Networks

1. The Fizzle Show: The foundational online business podcast hosted by Corbett Barr, Chase Reeves, and Caleb Wojcick that introduced Trudi to digital entrepreneurship.

2. Courage and Clarity Podcast: Hosted by Steph Crowder, a recommended resource for building an intentional path in business.

Public Health Frameworks & Research

1. The Weathering Framework: Developed in the 1990s by public health researcher Arlene Geronimus to explain how chronic exposure to systemic racism, economic exclusion, and political marginalization causes early physical health deterioration.

2. Allostatic Load: A biological concept developed by neuroendocrinologist Bruce McEwen tracking the cumulative biological wear and tear on the body's systems from years of sustained hypervigilance and stress.

3. American College of Cardiology Research: Reference to statistical data showing that the rate of hypertensive heart disease in women between the ages of 25 and 44 quadrupled between 1999 and 2023.

There is a certain kind of power in realizing that the structures you built, as successful as they were, no longer fit the person you are becoming. Moving from a lifetime of intense responsibility into a season of creative freedom is terrifying, but it is the only way to earn true ease. This story is a reminder that we can stop outrunning our changes and instead start asking different questions about what is possible next.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

Has this episode sparked something in you? Trudi invites you to:

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Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Lorraine (Lo) Martinez Bellamy—a life coach for ambitious millennial women, attorney, mother, and first-generation Puerto Rican who is navigating the complexities of modern ambition. Together, they explore the necessity of community, the friction of hyper-independence, and the profound grounding that can occur when life forces us to slow down.

After a deep period of processing personal grief and navigating the isolation accelerated by the pandemic, Lo began questioning the hyper-individualistic framework of modern life. This reckoning led her to champion intentional reconnection with community and friends as an essential piece of mental and emotional health. When Trudi noticed her own nervous system resisting a newly cleared calendar, she knew connecting with Lo to discuss behavioral strategies, processing trauma out loud, and giving ourselves permission to change our minds was essential.

You'll Discover

• The Illusion of Having It All: Trudi and Lo break down the generational conditioning of older millennials who were told they could accomplish everything, only to wake up and realize that the rigid standards of lifelong safety and stability are no longer sustainable or available.

• The Dynamic of Midlife Milestones: Trudi shares her thoughts on turning 40 as peak adulthood, prompting a broader conversation about perimenopause as a midlife adolescence and the deep desire to reclaim a simpler, less complicated young adult energy.

• The Friction of a Lighter Load: A deep dive into the reality of slowing down, where both hosts discuss how an overproducing nervous system can rebel against empty calendar space by looking for new projects or rearranging an entire office instead of sitting still.

• The System of Low-Pressure Friendships: Practical strategies for busy individuals to maintain consistent personal connections, including quarterly travel commitments, open group chats for daily life updates, and taking the pressure off immediate responses.

• Processing Grief and Vulnerability: Lo reflects on her own journey through infertility, navigating a second-trimester loss, and learning to let her guard down by sharing her heavy moments with a supportive inner circle rather than retreating into hyper-independence.

Key Themes

• Creative and professional sustainability requires challenging the sun-cost analysis of our careers and actively giving ourselves permission slip to change our minds about our lifestyles.

• Embracing a communal support system is a critical requirement for survival, contrasting the exhausting demands of modern, isolated parenting with the natural, tag-team dynamics of previous generations.

• Recognizing biological and emotional limitations is a vital aspect of mental wellness; our bodies and nervous systems will eventually force a halt if we refuse to slow down voluntarily.

Featured Voice

Lorraine Martinez Bellamy, life coach for ambitious millennial women, practicing attorney, and advocate for intentional living. Her work centers on helping high-achieving women expand beyond traditional career limitations, process existential transitions, and rebuild authentic community frameworks.

Where to Find Lo

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lomartinezbellamy/

Trudi's Reflection

There is a powerful clarity that comes when you realize your baseline setting is defaulted to over-functioning. Lo's perspective reminds us that building a system to reconnect with friends and community isn't a luxury; it is a literal requirement for our emotional survival. By refusing to process our grief and transitions in isolation, we open up the possibility to show up fully present, deeply grounded, and genuinely human for ourselves and each other.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

Has this episode sparked something in you? Trudi invites you to:

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Credits:

Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Dr. Joan Chan—a family physician, medical educator, and Institute for Equity-Centered Coaching alumna who is redefining what it means to care for ourselves and others. Together, they explore the concept of "rehumanizing" our lives and careers by shifting away from toxic overproduction toward sustainable, intentional space.

After navigating her own severe burnout while balancing a medical practice and a growing family, Joan began questioning the unsustainable standards embedded in healthcare and corporate systems. This reckoning led her to champion the practice of working under maximum capacity as a baseline design rather than a luxury. When Trudi felt exhaustion showing up in her own body at midlife, she knew connecting with Joan to discuss body constraints, cycle tracking, and reclaiming human limitations was essential.

• The Inhuman Standards of Success: Trudi and Joan break down the hidden curriculum in demanding industries that rewards chronic overwork and expects people to ignore basic bodily functions like eating, sleeping, or taking bathroom breaks.

• The Reality of Turning 40: Joan shares how reaching 40 brought a louder, "spicier" emotional and physical volume, prompting an active evolution in her personal relationship to ambition.

• Working Under Maximum Capacity: A deep dive into Joan's philosophy of designing calendars and workflows around 75% capacity, leaving 25% empty to handle life's inevitable emergencies and to allow room for dreaming.

• The Language of Tiny Experiments: Practical strategies for time-strapped individuals to introduce small grains of pleasure or boundary-setting into their daily routines without overcomplicating their schedules.

• Attuning to the Body's Cycles: Trudi reflects on her own journey of learning to understand her somatic capacity, track her menstrual cycle, and navigate the physiological renegotiations of midlife adolescence.

• Creative and professional sustainability requires challenging conventional, extraction-based definitions of success and embracing a "softer," right-sized approach to our workloads.

• Embracing empty space on a calendar is a critical requirement for maintaining individual identity and staying connected to who we are outside of our professional production roles.

• Recognizing biological and physical limitations is not an optional lifestyle choice; our animal bodies possess fixed boundaries that demand reverence and rest.

Dr. Joan Chan, family physician, restorative medical health educator, and podcast host. Her work centers on helping healthcare professionals and everyday individuals rehumanize their workloads, navigate chronic exhaustion, and embrace embodiment.

• Website: joanchanmd.com

• Instagram: ⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/joanchanmd/⁠

• Podcasts: https://www.joanchanmd.com/podcast

There is a powerful clarity that comes when your body forces you to stop outrunning your changes. Joan's perspective reminds us that prioritizing space isn't about being lazy or unproductive; it is a literal acknowledgment of our biological realities. By refusing to bleed ourselves dry for unsustainable systems, we open up the possibility to show up fully focused, present, and genuinely human for the things that matter most.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

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Credits:

Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of the podcast, Trudi sits down to share a deeply personal and reflective solo episode, capturing a significant moment of personal and professional realignment happening in real time. Together, we explore her transition from a high-energy era of hyper-focus and performance to a life rooted in presence, softness, and curiosity.

After years of building a highly successful diversity, equity, and inclusion coaching business that relied heavily on her constant presence and an unsustainable pace, Trudi faced a physical, mental, and political shift. This realization forced a reckoning with her relationship to ambition and led her to close out her previous program infrastructure in favor of a simpler, more creative, and community-focused model. This conversation is about moving away from constant output toward a deeper, more intentional way of being.

You'll Discover

• The Energy Shift in Your 40s: Trudi reflects on the specific physical and mental changes that occurred after she turned 40, marking a sharp decline in her ability to rely on overdrive to get things done.

• From Survival to Wandering: A look at how Trudi is transitioning from a lifetime focused on survival, young motherhood, and constant work to a season where she allows herself the space to create, wonder, and explore.

• Acceptance Over Fixing: The importance of recognizing when your body says "no more" and learning to honor those boundaries instead of pushing through unexpected medical emergencies and burnout.

• The Power of Active Choice: How moving too fast can blind us to alternative paths, and the importance of making conscious, aligned choices for your future.

Key Themes

• Creative and professional evolution often requires catching the urge to scale endlessly and returning to simplicity and authentic alignment.
• Internalized pressure to constantly perform and hold space for others can be shed in favor of a softer, more intellectual, and collaborative approach to life and work.
• Trust and community serve as the foundation for navigating life's major transitions and building spaces where people truly belong through active contribution.

Trudi's Reflection

There is a certain kind of power in realizing that the structures you built, as successful as they were, no longer fit the person you are becoming. Moving from a lifetime of intense responsibility into a season of creative freedom is terrifying, but it is the only way to earn true ease. This story is a reminder that we can stop outrunning our changes and instead start asking different questions about what is possible next.

Trudi's Offerings:

• Email: [email protected]
• Community: The Residency by Trudi Lebrón: https://trudilebron.com/the-residency-membership
• Join The Residency Membership and come as part of your membership
• Grab a ticket to the Salon: https://trudilebron.thrivecart.com/summersalon

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

Has this episode sparked something in you? Trudi invites you to:

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Credits:

Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Lindsay Dotzlaf—a coach and entrepreneur who is navigating a profound season of personal and professional realignment. Together, they explore the transition from a high-energy "overdrive" era of hyper-focus and performance to a life rooted in presence, softness, and curiosity.

After years of building a successful coaching business that relied on her ability to crank out work at an unsustainable pace, Lindsay faced a physical and energetic shift around the age of 42. This realization forced a reckoning with her relationship to ambition and led her to dismantle her previous program infrastructure in favor of a simpler, more effective membership model. When Trudi observed Lindsay quietly redesigning her life and business, she knew this conversation about moving away from constant output toward a deeper, more intentional way of being was essential.

You'll Discover

• The Energy Shift at 42: Lindsay and Trudi compare notes on the specific physical and mental changes that occur in their early 40s, marking the end of the ability to rely on "overdrive" to get things done.

• Unwinding the Performance of Perfection: A look at how Lindsay transitioned from a high-anxiety overachiever to someone who prioritizes internal alignment over outward appearance.

• Acceptance Over Fixing: The importance of recognizing that a shift in drive is a permanent state to work with, rather than a problem to be solved with supplements or better workouts.

• The Power of Curiosity: Lindsay's primary tool for navigating transition is inviting curiosity rather than judgment when exploring what she truly wants for the future.

Key Themes

• Creative and professional evolution often requires catching the urge to overcomplicate and returning to simplicity.

• Internalized pressure to perform constantly can be shed in favor of a "softer" approach to life and work.

• Trust and collaboration serve as the foundation for selecting professional partners and navigating life's "emergencies" with ease.

Featured Voice

Lindsay Dotzlaf, coach, entrepreneur, and podcast host. Her work focuses on mastering coaching skills and helping business owners navigate their professional journeys with clarity and transparency.

Where to Find Lindsay

• Website: lindsaydotzlafcoaching.com

• Podcast: Mastering Coaching Skills

• Newsletter: Full Disclosure, a space for processing the behind-the-scenes of life and business

• Instagram: @lindsaydotzlaf

Trudi's Reflection

There is a certain kind of person who makes you feel like everything is going to be just fine, not because they are glossing over the hard parts, but because they have done the work to earn that ease. Lindsay's story is a reminder that we can stop outrunning our changes and instead start asking different questions about what is possible next.

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

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Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Tarzan Kay—a consent-based email marketing expert who is navigating a profound season of personal and professional realignment. Together, they explore the transition from the high-energy "Girl Boss" era of sparkle pants and stages to a life rooted in presence, song, and community.

After years of building a million-dollar business that demanded her constant mental energy, Tarzan faced a series of "Covid casualties," including a divorce and the loss of her brother. These events forced a reckoning with conventional ambition and led her to dismantle her large team in favor of a more sustainable, collaborative model. When Trudi saw Tarzan sharing this "public reckoning" with her newsletter subscribers, she knew this conversation about realigning work with core values was essential.

You'll Discover

• Song as a Revolutionary Tool: Tarzan shares how leading song circles has created a collective nervous system calming that surpasses anything she experienced in traditional business settings.

• The Cost of High Ambition: Reflecting on her "peak ambition" years, Tarzan discusses the mental fog that left a two-year gap in her memories of her children's early lives.

• Navigating the "Darkness" of Transition: The importance of "sitting in the dark" during periods of change rather than rushing to fix or produce, moving away from the colonial capitalist drive for constant output.

• Redefining Success Through Presence: How simple joys—like sitting on the floor by the fireplace with her children—have replaced the desire for luxury supports like nannies and house cleaners.

Key Themes

• Creative evolution often requires a period of total stillness and non-production.

• Internalized capitalism often disguises itself as a resistance to rest.

• Accountability with a collaborative team can help maintain boundaries around your time and energy.

• Impact can be measured by the depth of trust in personal relationships as much as professional reach.

• Consent-based marketing focuses on honoring values and building genuine relationships over high-pressure tactics.

Featured Book

1. Artists in Times of War by Howard Zinn.

Where to Find Tarzan

1. Newsletter: Emails, but Better: https://tarzankay.com/newsletter

2. Event: The GirlBoss Apology Tour replay will be available for free from April 24th-27th. Click here to get on the waitlist: https://myrootabl.com/r/m8u6HB96?rootabl=trudil

Trudi's Reflection

"There's something happening with the people I'm drawn to right now—they're all stepping away from something and finding their way back in new forms. Tarzan's story reminds me that the systems we build aren't just about efficiency. They're about creating the space to be human when life demands it."

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

Has this episode sparked something in you? Trudi invites you to:

1. Leave a review and share how this conversation resonated with you

2. Share this podcast with a leader, coach, or creator who is Ambitious and Exhausted.

Let's Connect:

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trudilebron/

Working Hypothesis: https://trudilebron.com/

Credits:

Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.

In this episode of Trudi Lebrón is Ambitious and Exhausted, Trudi sits down with Adrienne Dorison—co-founder of Run Like Clockwork and now founder of Level 11 Leaders—who's emerging from her own period of quiet transformation. Together, they explore what happens when the systems you build actually work, when life forces you to step back, and how ambition and exhaustion dance together in the lives of high-achieving women.

After years of building a business designed to run without her, Adrienne found herself needing exactly that: space to navigate a divorce, raise young children, and reconnect with the parts of her work that still lit her up. What emerged was a new company, a new podcast, and a clearer understanding of what she actually wants to create. When Trudi noticed Adrienne re-emerging online with fresh energy and new clarity, she knew this was a conversation worth having.

Systems Create Space for the Unexpected: Adreanne's investment in building a business that could run without her gave her the breathing room to weather personal upheaval—a divorce, young children, and a creative reckoning—without everything falling apart.

Ambition and Exhaustion May Be Inextricably Linked: Both Trudi and Adrienne grapple with the reality that the drive to do more never quite turns off. The question isn't how to eliminate it, but how to create enough white space to hold it without burning out.

Restraint Is a Leadership Skill: Letting your team make mistakes, shutting your mouth when you want to speak, and stepping back so others can step up isn't weakness—it's what allows a business (and a leader) to grow beyond one person's capacity.

• Creative suffocation can signal it's time for evolution, not abandonment.

• The "shoulds" can be released; the "wants" are harder to quiet.

• White space on your calendar isn't laziness—it's where better ideas live.

• Parking lot your ideas: tend to them like a garden, not a to-do list.

• Your self-care cocktail is yours to discover. There's no universal formula.

Adrienne Dorison, operations strategist, leadership coach, and founder of Level 11 Leaders. Her work centers on creating workplaces that don't suck—helping accidental leaders become intentional ones through better systems and stronger people skills.

1. Podcast: Sort of Bossy (available on Apple, Spotify, and sortofbossy.com)

2. Website: Level11Leaders.com

"There's something happening with the people I'm drawn to right now—they're all stepping away from something and finding their way back in new forms. Adrianne's story reminds me that the systems we build aren't just about efficiency. They're about creating the space to be human when life demands it."

About the Host:

This podcast is hosted by Trudi Lebrón — writer, entrepreneur, and CEO. A former teen mom turned award-winning author and equity-centered business strategist, Trudi has spent more than two decades designing transformational experiences that reshape how we live, lead, and build community. As the author of The Antiracist Business Book and founder of Transformation by Design, she works at the intersection of psychology, culture, and leadership to help individuals and organizations align their impact with their values.

Trudi is also the co-founder of bougieferal.com, a lifestyle and learning brand reclaiming luxury, liberation, and wild creative power for women of color. To learn more about Trudi, get on her email list at trudilebron.com.

Join the Conversation:

Has this episode sparked something in you? Trudi invites you to:

1. Leave a review and share how this conversation resonated with you

2. Share this podcast with a leader, coach, or creator who is Ambitious and Exhausted.

Let's Connect:

🌐 trudilebron.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trudilebron

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/trudilebron/

Working Hypothesis: https://trudilebron.com/

Credits:

Intro and outro music: "Come Give Me Love" by King Sis (Epidemic Sound)

A Crackers In Soup production.