Cancel culture - how do we feel about it?? Casey talks to fellow comedian Francis Ellis about how a real-life true crime story played a part in him almost being cancelled and what he learned from it. We also discuss true crime fans, why all secret families live in the desert, and whether or not you can have too much blood in a documentary about murder. Spoiler! Apparently, you can!   Follow Casey!   Follow Francis!   Produced by Dear Media.