What happens when unimaginable grief and trauma share the same emotional space? In this episode of A Place of Yes, Heather connects with Kara and Kim, hosts of Survivors Guide to True Crime.

Though their experiences differ — Heather grieving the loss of her son and Kara and Kim surviving traumatic, life altering experiences — they find common ground in the overlap of their pain.

They discuss the harmful clichés they’ve heard, toxic positivity, and the fear of raising children while carrying the weight of their trauma. It’s a raw, honest look at how grief and trauma are more connected than we often realize.

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