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True Inclusion Comes From The Heart with Kelli McLoud-Schingen (025)


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Kelli McLoud-Schingen is a world-class bridge builder, using the power of story and art to bring about social and racial justice. In this interview, she details how her upbringing in Chicago fueled her current passion for inclusive leadership and intercultural competence. We answer pertinent questions from the diversity, equity, and inclusion field, including why Black self-determinism is non negotiable and often overlooked, how art can transform perspectives, and why gradual change is no longer a viable solution.  

 

Bio: Kelli McLoud-Schingen is President and principal facilitator/trainer for KMS Intercultural Consulting, LLC. She specializes in Inclusive Leadership, Global Diversity and Inclusion, Storytelling, Cultural Competence, Social Justice, Healing Racism, Conflict Resolution/Mediation, and Team-building. She has facilitated development workshops, trainings and dramatic presentations for educational, non-profit, government and corporate institutions in the USA and internationally since 1989. A certified professional mediator, Kelli holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communication from Aurora University and a Master of Arts in Cross-Cultural Studies from the University of Houston-Clear Lake. 

 

 

Show Notes:

  • Why the most recent upsurge of social justice support from white America was long overdue
  • Why educating from our wounds is a problem
  • How Kelli transitioned out of the shame and blame model of racial justice   
  • Why hurt people will continue to hurt people without the proper mindset
  • Kelli details the racial environment from her youth in Chicago
  • Where does the performer, artist side of Kelli originate from and how does it impact her mission as an educator?
  • Why do stories captivate the human mind and heart?
  • Why different people and identities will internalize their marginality uniquely
  • Looking into the similarities between all oppressed and colonized peoples
  • Why do television studios feel the need to Americanize every story?
  • What can Kelli's home of Tulsa, Oklahoma teach us about racial education?
  • Why Black empowerment runs against the dominator's narrative
  • The horrors of the Tulsa Massacre/Black Wall Street Massacre in 1921, and how it affects us in the present
  • How does anti-Black racism function and operate?
  • Why Black self-determination is one of the issues that many overlook
  • How white Americans married into indigenous families in order to gain legal and financial advantages
  • When we fail to learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat it
  • Why we no longer have the luxury of slow change
  • Kelli's definition of diversity - All of the ways we are different and the same
  • Why, for the privileged group, equality will feel like oppression

Connect with Kelli McLoud-Schingen:

 

Website | kmsintercultural.com - She helps individuals, corporations, and organizations to navigate the journey to inclusion and cultural competence through the power of story.

Connect with Amer and The Eclectic Inclusion Podcast:

 

Website | amerfahmed.com

 

Instagram | @dramerfahmed

 

Twitter | @dramerfahmed

 

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