Andrew Tootell's OzZen Podcast

True Suffering and False Suffering


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This talk commences with some words on the act of terrorism that had just occurred in New Zealand on the previous Friday. I then share some of my reflections on the chapter True Suffering and False Suffering from Everyday Zen. It begins with a discussion of the absolute and the relative together as it relates to suffering. I then discuss the basic distinction between true and false suffering as a way of practicing with suffering. I introduce my own interpretation of primary and secondary suffering, with secondary suffering being a form of resistance to primary suffering. And as long as we are caught in a separate self, we will also experience a background feeling of unease or lack. The talk concludes by encouraging us to be this impermanent moment that we are. The way to the ending of suffering, paradoxically, by fully being our suffering.
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