In this episode of the Wisconsin Forward Podcast, host Matt Rothschild talks with David Couper, the former police chief of Madison, Wisconsin, and with Angela Lang, the executive director of BLOC, Black Leaders Organizing for Communities. They discuss the threat that Trump’s militarization of policing poses to our cities and to our democracy.

Wisconsin Forward tells stories from one of the nation's most closely contested swing state. Host Matt Rothschild looks to explain the background on a number of issues across Wisconsin, including the seemingly split personality the state presents in electoral politics, the results of political gerrymandering, and many more. This multipart series will take a deeper look into Wisconsin politics, featuring voices from around the state and the Civic Media network, to provide the context of our complex swing state and provide some insight on how the state can move forward.

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