Dr Wilson takes us through his journey from medical school in the shadow of Ebola outbreaks, to rainforest fieldwork, to NASA satellite projects that caught the attention of the intelligence community, and later, front-line pandemic response.

Mark and Howard welcome Dr. James Wilson, a practicing pediatrician and one of the world's leading experts in operational health security and biosurveillance. Wilson has built systems used to anticipate and detect infectious disease crises, served as the first operations chief of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's National Biosurveillance Integration Center, and has decades of experience in epidemic forecasting and intelligence analysis.

This is not just a story about pandemics. It's a story about information, uncertainty, and the resilience of societies when confronted with the unknown.

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