Collective grief is the shared experience of loss or change that impacts a group, community, or even an entire nation. It can be sparked by war, natural disasters, or the passing of a public figure. One month after the devastating Los Angeles fires, the grief remains, even as the city begins to rebuild.

In this episode, Holly sits down with her friend and fellow New Yorker-turned-Angeleno, Micki Marseglia, to reflect on both collective and personal grief. Micki, the longtime head of talent relations at Jimmy Kimmel Live!, has been with the show since its inception over 20 years ago. She’s also Jimmy’s cousin and one of three daughters of the beloved Uncle Frank Potenza and Concetta Aunt Chippy Potenza.

With Jill out sick, Micki was the perfect person to explore the emotions that come with loss in the wake of disaster. Together, she and Holly discuss the weight of grief, the resilience it demands, and the importance of trusting the journey—even in times of uncertainty. Listen as they reconnect over their love for New York and Los Angeles, share memories of their own losses, and remind each other that even in darkness, there is always light to be found.

Jimmy Kimmel Live on instagram 

Perhaps the greatest video of Micki to ever exist 

FIRE RELIEF: 

Shelter Partnership 

American Red Cross 

LA Food Bank 

LAFD Foundation 

Altadena Rotary Club