Francoise Bourzat speaks with Joanna about: a book born from the course “Expanded States of Consciousnes and Psychotherapy”; first experience with indigenous medicine; a resonant, mysterious and familiar connection to Nature; what she learned from Doña Julieta Casimiro, a Mazatec master healer; trusting the “Holy Children”; purified by the principle of psycho-spiritual composting; the resonance of interdependence in us; the importance of a code of ethics in the field of psychedelic therapy; surrender as a rite of passage; reclaiming our animal, organic nature; therapeutic characteristics of the main entheogens; expressing our potential as compassion in action.

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