In the final episode of IDI's special focus on making debating inclusive, we speak with Tshiamo Malatji. 

 Tshiamo puts forward an important argument in reframing "development". We should not consider "developing" a debate circuit to mean that those with all the knowledge come to a community to dump their knowledge. Rather, he suggests, it is a mutual learning process, where the external trainer gets as much from the process as the people they train. 

 And Tshiamo's implication is that this horizontal development can radically alter how we develop circuits, suggesting that developing circuits can reach out to each other and learn and share together.  

We start this conversation with developing debate in Bloemfontein. But the contours of Tshiamo's approach to developing debate means we learn from a debate network that stretches from Latin America to the Middle East.  

Want to learn more? Use this accompanying list of links:  https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s47KmlT7IrgzmviEq3mJiMrVnQwAcazd 

Check out this video on UFS debate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h80dw8aEd-E&feature=youtu.be  

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