Thomas Drance of the Athletic Vancouver says Hughes and Pettersson are struggling, and the club has to ask if its put the players in positions to succeed, and if not...what happened?

Ray Ferraro isn't sure the Canucks can be in the playoff mix in the North, but suggests they'll have to go on a few 3,4 game win streaks to do that. Ray says the Canucks have to run a lot of contracts off the books before they'll be able to rebuild around that young core

Mike and Jason talk Canucks with Jeff Pat, and continue to recap a 3-1 loss in Toronto

Jeff Paterson says the Canucks need some time at home to practice and figure some things out. Jeff gets into Quinn Hughes' defensive play and what he saw last night from Olli Juolevi

Mike and Jason get into a 3-1 Canucks loss and a five-game losing skid

Mike and Jason discuss What We Learned

Mike and Jason talk Canucks with Dave Tomlinson and with Mike Johnson

Dave Tomlinson says the Canucks must concentrate on doing their own jobs well defensively, then hope to win on the PP. Dave admits it seems to already be moral victory time vs a very strong Leafs team

TSN's Mike Johnson says the Canucks gave up a tono of high-quality chances last year, and may be worse this year. Mike says the Canucks may be the worst defensive team in the NHL

Mike and Jason talk Super Bowl with Mike Tanier and Canucks with Jeff Paterson