So Pete and John had grand plans of getting together and putting out this pod in the start of the holidays and then doing a couple of pods during the holidays.

Look, we all know that didn't happen. I'm not sure what's on this one either - I like to take a gamble and see what's on there when it's published. 

In other words, as John likes to say, I'm rubbish. I might update these show notes after I listen. But I doubt it.

Dear listener we love you, my rubbishness is less a reflection on how we feel about you and more a direct correlation with the intensity of life at the moment. 

Thanks for sticking with us, and if you get the chance give it a rate and review on iTunes or wherever else you can.

Thanks,
Pete (@mr_van_w) and John (@jfcatto)