Happy Friday! This week we're bringing you a much-requested episode: a chat all about villains.

In this episode, Steph and Ava discuss what it takes to be a "true" villain, how we feel about redemption arcs, some of our favorite villains of all time, and, of course some book recommendations.

Please be warned there is a spoiler for Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, so if you haven't seen the film but have an interest in watching, skip ahead as soon as Kylo Ren is mentioned!