This conversation delves into the evolution of artificial intelligence, exploring its historical roots, the legacy of Alan Turing, and the distinctions between various forms of AI, including AGI, agentic AI, and neuro-symbolic AI. The discussion highlights the ethical implications of AI development and the importance of integrating human-like reasoning into AI systems. The speakers also touch on real-world applications and the potential threats posed by autonomous AI systems, emphasizing the need for transparency and ethical considerations in AI innovation.