The Most Important Conversations

Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out: Real Relationships In A World That Fragments Us


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Modern relationships are struggling under the weight of a fragmented world—siloed selves, economic pressure, and a cultural obsession with performance over presence. In this provocative conversation, Chad Lefevre and Jenna Smith unravel how our conditioning as “human doings” fractures intimacy, dulls our aliveness, and keeps us disconnected from ourselves and each other. With sharp insights, irreverent humor, and real talk about emotional responsibility, they explore how to “turn on, tune in, and drop out” in a way that makes our relationships more honest, alive, and whole. If you’ve ever wondered why your partnership feels more like a roommate situation, or why connection feels just out of reach, this one hits deep.


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The Most Important ConversationsBy Chad Lefevre & September Dohrmann