Settle in and hear how two very different ecologists navigated their careers to become BES Fellows, and who both share a passion for turning science into action and conservation.

In this episode, we sit with Dr Caroline Howe, an Associate Professor in Environmental Social Science at Imperial College and Vice President of the BES, and Niru Dorrian, a Ambassador to the UN Ocean Decade at The Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology and Senior Marine Ecology Consultant supporting EirGrid.