In this special season 13 premiere episode of Frankly Speaking, the tables are turned as Paul MacCormack, the mindful superintendent and general manager of Fox Meadow Golf Club, interviews longtime host Frank Rossi. The conversation explores Frank's journey in the turfgrass industry, from his early curiosity-driven nature to his career in academia and research. They discuss the evolution of science in turfgrass management, the importance of unlearning harmful work habits like the grind mentality, and Frank's personal experiences with vulnerability and life challenges. The discussion touches on Frank's recent transition to becoming a grandfather and how it's shifted his perspective on work and life balance. They also explore broader industry changes, including automation's impact on the workforce and the changing expectations of younger professionals entering the field. Throughout the interview, Frank shares candidly about his approach to maintaining curiosity, his philosophy on vulnerability, and his gratitude for the relationships built through his podcast and career in the turfgrass community.