On this episode of the Deal Farm®, Kevin and Ken talk with Caleb Christopher about turning "trash leads" into profitable creative finance deals. Based in Kansas City, Caleb shares how he went from accidental landlord to launching Creative TC, where he helps investors structure safe, legal, and ethical sub-to and seller-finance transactions. He breaks down the real risks behind creative financing, including due-on-sale clauses, expectation management, and protecting sellers the right way. If you've ever wondered how to convert dead leads into serious opportunities, this episode is packed with practical insight.