Guest Len has a phrase he says all the time. “I’m not that guy anymore.” He got sober later in life after 58 years of running from God, seven failed treatments, and a life built on self-determination. Today, he’s a steady presence in our recovery group, showing up week after week with humility and hope. In this episode we talk about what it takes to truly change, what’s lost and what’s gained, and how to keep moving forward when the old version of you still tries to show up.

00:00 – Bumper-sticker rants and baby-on-board debates set up Len’s arrival

05:59 – God Guy recalls being welcomed by Len’s wife, the “mother figure” he needed to stay

10:45 – Len reflects on Jake’s early skepticism, drinking on the way to meetings, and the eventual turn toward willingness

21:02 – Len shares how Brian’s faith foundation gave him both hope and concern in early recovery

31:15 – Len’s “screaming surrender” moment in treatment that changed everything

39:53 – The roots of arrogance, baseball, and why old patterns took so long to break

54:29 – How Len catches himself when the “old Len” shows up and why pausing makes all the difference