April 15, 2025

TVP #232: The Family That Doesn’t Exist – 4 Generations Without Social(ist) (In)Security Numbers & Nomad Adventures w/ Keturah Lamb & Andy

1 hour 15 minutes

On this episode of The Vonu Podcast, I welcome Keturah Lamb and her husband, Andy. Keturah is part of a family that has gone nearly 100 years without social(ist) (in)security numbers.

Herein, she gives us this story of resilience, of standing firmly on principles, and how life without slave tags and slave documents can be lived in the modern day, without much sacrifice.

Later on, Andy and I discuss his extensive nomad adventures, and whether or not a freight hopping adventure is a good idea.

Please enjoy, and make sure to pick up a copy of The Family That Doesn’t Exist via Liberty Under Attack Publications. Just visit LibertyUnderAttack.com/Lamb.

SHOW GUIDE:

Keturah introduces us to the background of social(ist) (in)security numbers, and why her great grandfather decided to trust in God, Creator over government

Keturah’s great-grandfather knew that SSN’s would not go away as was promised, and called them the “Mark of the Beast”

He raised 13 kids, most of which still do not have SSN’s

Keturah’s dad raised her and her siblings the same way — no SSN’s, no birth certificates

How their family has survived and thrived for ~100 years while having to run from and remain invisible to the government

The challenges of homeschooling his children when it was highly illegal; it forced them to live a nomadic, vonu lifestyle

Andy’s background and introduction; started nomadism early in his life — hitchhiking, pedestrian nomadism, and even freight hopping — living with no money/income

Acquiring a passport and traveling overseas without a social security number or birth certificate — Keturah’s experience, the legal interstice, challenges, etc.

Does the Family Bible still work to prove birth certificate/identity? YES!

Home births? Could someone acquire a birth certificate later, if desired/necessary? Yes, it’s easy.

With their lifestyle, the “status” of not existing, what are their interactions with government agents, bureaucrats like? Frequently?

You can even political crusade without an SSN or birth certificate!

How do Keturah and Andy accomplish financial independence? Side hustles? Entrepreneurship?

Biggest financial independence tips: keep expenses LOW!

Keturah’s experience with using finance/subscription platforms like PayPal, Substack, etc. without having an SSN

Andy’s tirade against cars! And the 49cc motorbike loophole.

Andy: freight hopping adventures, tips and tricks. First tip or trick? Don’t do it!

Keturah discusses the immersion courses she’s hosted; women come stay with her for a couple weeks to learn all about baking, sewing, mothering, & more

Spirituality/religion’s role in their pursuit of their lifestyles

Keturah’s Twitter: https://x.com/KeturahAbigail

Andy’s Twitter: https://x.com/shagbark_hick

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