In Luke's telling of the call to the first disciples, Jesus says those who follow him will "catch people." Which people and how many when we're in the business of dismantling systems of oppression? In this episode, Rev. Seth Wispelwey also asks what our personal thresholds are, as white Christians, for determining when we leave "everything" and follow him. Do not be afraid!

Transcript available here: https://surj.org/our-work/surj-faith/twir/