Extreme Ownership is a great book about the SEALs bur here's Extreme Ogre ship about Seabees doing whatever it takes to get shit done. Doug is one of my oldest friends in the military from 1996 to this day we've always been friends now pretty much family. I believe its important for vets to have long lasting healthy relationships long after separation or retirement . Anyway quit reading this shit and listen to the show. Also Thanks for stopping by