<p>Episode 6: Jack and Rob engage in a series of mind melting debates on sci-fi and dystopian films, books, and tropes, while at the same time trying to imagine what their individual futures could be. Are live albums worth listening to? Will we all live on boats? What's up with Ryan Gosling?</p>

Episode 6: Jack and Rob engage in a series of mind melting debates on sci-fi and dystopian films, books, and tropes, while at the same time trying to imagine what their individual futures could be. Are live albums worth listening to? Will we all live on boats? What's up with Ryan Gosling?

Two Grown Men Arguing About Ryan Gosling

The misadventures of renowned tattooer Jack Matisse and photographer and musician Rob Hanna, two punk expats from Seattle living in Berlin, Germany. Longtime friends for a quarter century, the two regale stories of their past in the Pacific Northwest to their present fumblings through Germany’s Hauptstadt, while also discussing at length their creative processes.

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Two Grown Men Arguing About Ryan Gosling

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