What if the real math crisis isn't about numbers — but about identity?

In this powerful episode of Shine a Light, Christine Miles sits down with national education leader and math expert Beth Zhang to unpack America's math crisis — and why so many of us still believe, "I'm just not a math person." Beth shares her unexpected journey from political science major to leading K–12 math transformation efforts across the country, revealing how mindset, listening, and instructional shifts can radically change outcomes for students.

Together, they explore why math anxiety is often a story we inherit — and how educators, parents, and leaders can rewrite it.

In this episode, you'll discover:

• Why "listening to" is more powerful than "listening for" answers
• How growth mindset transforms math identity — for kids and adults
• The alarming data behind America's math crisis — and what can actually fix it
• Why math is less about formulas and more about confidence

If you've ever said, "I'm not a math person," this conversation might just change your mind.

Because when we shift the narrative, we don't just improve outcomes — we unlock potential.

Connect with Us:

Host: Christine Miles – Creator of The Listening Path® LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinemiles

Guest: Beth Zhang – National Education Leader & Math Expert, Lavinia Group LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethzhang