Psychiatric nurse and musician Paul talks to Joanna Neary about making music for its own sake. 

It’s another day in 1989. Sick of counting cars and avoiding gainful employment, two feckless teenagers come up with a plan. This is the origin story of ‘Two Strings & Paint Tins’.

We talk about judgement too: what happens when people tell you that you shouldn’t be expressing yourself in that genre?

Doesn’t it make you want to keep going?

YES! This eclectic podcast episode is an experiment, a meandering chat, an exercise in having fun and being way out of the old comfort zones.

It’s a celebration of being bored, getting things wrong and keeping on anyway.

Theme music by Hedluv.

Made with funding support from Arts Council England.

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