Eye pokes, early stoppages, and referee controversies galore...who better to talk it all than the man that literally WROTE THE RULES! The GOAT of MMA refereeing, John McCarthy, joins us on the thirty-fifth episode of the On Paper Podcast, powered by Home of Fight & presented by Black Buffalo.

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The On Paper Podcast gives fans a ringside seat to Smith’s mind—not just the fighter but the father, adventurer, and guy-next-door with plenty of surprises.

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