Jason Rigdon of the Podcast of Mystery interviewed Matthew Heines, host of the Encounters USA Podcast.

The subjects of the interview: a UFO Encounter in the Sinai desert and another at the ECETI Ranch.The Sinai encounter involved Colombian Army forces and forces from Fiji and Norway.

Matthew Heines was serving as a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne Division at the time.

Heines, along with a contingent of Americans participating in a military style decathlon had arrived in camp the day after the incident.

The event was documented in a UN publication called The Sandpaper.

Matthew Heines reads the original account and explains how the story was related to him.

The Fijians who explained it were somewhat fearful of the UFO’s return.

Encounter 2 The ECETI Ranch

South of Mt Adams lies the ECETI Ranch.

After doing a story on the Maury Island UFO incident near Tacoma, Washington in 1947, Matthew Heines contacted Michael Hall. A former Thurston County Judge, Michael Hall was head of the UFO iTeam and a Maury Island Expert.

When The Paranormal Attorney, as Micheal Hall is known, explained to me he was at the ECETI Ranch to see UFO’s, I was on my way.

the Encounters in Egypt, the ECETI Ranch and near Mt. Adams first hand.

Enjoy the show!