Welcome to our podcast covering the history of Marvel’s Ultimate line of comics.

In the seventeenth episode of Ultimate Losers, we finish the last issues of Ultimate Marvel Team up (14-16) and meet Ultimate Black Widow and Ultimate Shang Chi, Master of Kung Fu.

In this episode the losers discuss: his baby-eating holiness: Doctor Doom, Red Dwarves, and totally real ancient Chinese fairy tales.

Follow along on with the companion image gallery here: www.ultimateloserspodcast.wordpress.com

Intro music is "The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" from "Live (Only Not)" by Lemon Demon. You can purchase the album here: lemondemon.bandcamp.com/album/live-only-not