Join Chair of EFTA, Umberta Telfener and Gail Simon as they talk about Umberta's early years through to adult life, what shaped her, the relationship with her nonna, and then with her international journey into the systemic field - and how we need a new systemic to meet the current needs of migrants and shifting political landscapes.

Umberta’s Academia.edu page
EFTA


Systemic Lives
Murmurations. Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice
Everything is Connected Press

Watch the video versions of Systemic Lives interviews on the Systemic Practice YouTube Channel. 

This podcast is part of the Systemic Lives series hosted by Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press CIC.