George reads a lot. And a lot of what he reads is very different from what most people read.

Among his most enduring influences is the great Italian academic semioticist Umberto Eco (1932-2016).

On this episode of the StandfastCast podcast, Karen asks George about why it is that this rather arcane and difficult writer and thinker, and his rather arcane and difficult novels and essays, inspire him so much and remain on his short list of go-to resources.