In this episode, Tracy Lee is joined by co-host Jessica Wilkins and guest Chris Coyier, co-founder of CodePen, a company that provides an online code editor. They discuss various topics related to web development and technology.

Chris talks about his background and his work at CodePen. They are currently working on CodePen 2.0, a major update to the platform. Chris mentions that although the interface of CodePen may not have changed much over time, there's value in maintaining reliability and consistency for users.

They touch upon the challenges of keeping up with the ever-evolving landscape of web technologies. Chris expresses the importance of providing an online code editor that supports various technologies and languages, allowing users to experiment without setting up complex development environments. He also acknowledges the growing trend of AI integration in coding tools.

The conversation then shifts to the debate surrounding different tools, frameworks, and technologies in the web development space. Chris emphasizes the need for cohesiveness among these technologies and their documentation, allowing developers to easily combine tools without friction. He mentions other online code editors like StackBlitz and CodeSandbox and their innovations.

The interview highlights the importance of community and the role it plays in the success of projects like CodePen. Chris shares his dedication to maintaining the platform and ensuring its growth and relevance while also addressing potential business challenges, such as balancing free users and paid subscribers. The discussion reflects the dynamic nature of web development and the various factors that drive innovation and growth within the industry.

HostsTracy Lee, CEO of This Dot LabsJessica Wilkins, Software Engineer at This Dot Labs

GuestChris Coyier, Co-Founder of CodePen

Sponsored by This Dot Labs