How do we discern what career God is calling us to? And does our ministry need to fit into a traditional church structure? Tim Spivey joins us for this conversation about the pressures of “figuring out” our career and what to do when we don’t feel God leading us in a specific direction. Tim also shares about the unconventional vision of the church he founded, New Vintage, and how it can inspire us to think outside the box for loving people in our community. 

Highlights include a rubik’s cube church venue, God leading us by a pillar of cloud (not a 5-year plan), and the superpower of friendship.