In this episode of Terribly and Terrifyingly Normal, we speak with Julia Ebner - an expert in online radicalization, conspiracy theories, and the threats they pose to democracy.

As part of her research, she went undercover in extremist online communities and even attended real-world meetings. She witnessed how movements like QAnon grew from small online forums into the mainstream.

She’s the author of three bestselling books: Rage, Going Dark, and Going Mainstream.