In this conversation, Kel and Cody discuss NPC bodybuilding divisions and what judges are looking for. They cover the women's divisions, including bikini, figure, physique, and fitness. They highlight the specific criteria and poses for each division, as well as the emphasis on femininity and athleticism. They also mention the high costs associated with competing in women's bodybuilding divisions. Overall, the conversation provides an overview of the different categories and what it takes to succeed in each one. In this conversation, Kel and Cody discuss different categories in bodybuilding, including women's fitness, women's bodybuilding, men's bodybuilding, classic physique, and men's physique. They talk about the criteria for judging each category and the challenges faced by competitors. They also touch on the importance of tanning in bodybuilding competitions. The conversation ends with a Power Talk quote about inspiring others by overcoming fear.