In this insightful episode, Lucia and Joanne converse about the therapeutic impact of storytelling and personal tid bits towards understanding one's past. The discussion spans Lucia's childhood in an Italian immigrant family, the socio-emotional challenges she faced, and complex family dynamics. They delve into the themes of overt and covert trauma/abuse, particularly highlighting the impact on self-worth and attachment. Lucia shares poignant personal anecdotes, including a traumatic incident with her daughter and the ever-present emotional struggles within her family. Joanne offers her perspective on self-reflection, healing, and understanding one's journey. The conversation ultimately emphasizes the importance of recognizing and breaking free from patterns the brain is all too familiar with, to foster personal growth and resilience.