In this episode of the Undragoned podcast, Curtis and Brooke Hays explore the origins of their podcast, the influence of C.S. Lewis, and the journey of faith that led to the creation of 'Mere Christianity.' They discuss personal stories, the importance of legacy, and the profound impact of meaningful conversations on personal growth and spirituality; exploring themes of morality, personal experiences, and the philosophical insights of C.S. Lewis, focusing on the nature of right and wrong, the instinctual understanding of moral law, and the transformative journey of Eustace in The Chronicles of Narnia. They discuss how personal experiences shape our understanding of morality, the origins of moral law, and the significance of a lawgiver in understanding right and wrong; culminating in a reflection on the spiritual growth and redemption depicted in Lewis's works, emphasizing the importance of recognizing our flaws and the need for a higher power in our journey towards becoming whole.