This unedited conversation with David Brooks and E.J. Dionne comes from our produced show "David Brooks and E. J. Dionne on Obama's Theologian: Neibuhr and the American Present." President Obama has cited Reinhold Niebuhr's teachings as significant in shaping his ideas about politics and governance. In a public conversation, we discuss the great public theologian's legacy and ideas -- and what influence they may play in the future of American politics. See more at www.onbeing.org/program/obamas-theologian-david-brooks-and-ej-dionne-reinhold-niebuhr-and-american-present/136/audio