UnHack with Drex DeFord

UnHack (the Podcast): Breaking Down Silos and Building Up Culture with Shawna Hofer


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November 25, 2025: What if cybersecurity awareness training could be fun, like mixing bratwurst and flu shots? Shawna Hofer, CISO at St. Luke's Health System, shares how her team transformed security culture by meeting staff where they are—literally. From creating engaging one-minute videos featuring everyday healthcare workers to establishing a groundbreaking IT and cyber resiliency team that breaks down traditional silos, Shawna reveals why the best healthcare CISOs are expert translators and relationship builders. She also tackles the tough questions around AI governance, operational resilience in the wake of major industry incidents, and why cyber preparedness must extend beyond hospital walls to protect entire communities. Discover how collaboration and creativity are reshaping healthcare cybersecurity from the inside out.

Key Points:

  • 03:28 Building a Cybersecurity Culture
  • 08:00 Operational Resilience and Incident Response
  • 15:58 AI Governance
  • 20:55 Promoting Diversity in Cybersecurity
  • 25:27 The Role of a Healthcare CISO

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