UnHack with Drex DeFord

UnHack (the Podcast): Passion Over Paychecks and Hidden Risk with Mary Dickerson and Gordon Groschl


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November 4, 2025: Identity has become the foundation of healthcare security, but managing it is more complex than ever. In part two of this UnHack (the Podcast), Mary Dickerson, Associate VP and CISO of UTHealth Houston & Gordon Groschl, CISO and Director of HTM at Texas Children’s Hospitals, explore how organizations are shifting from prevention to resiliency. They also share candid career advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals, challenging the industry's unrealistic entry-level requirements and explaining why passion matters more than credentials. From volunteer firefighting to CISO leadership, discover the unconventional paths and practical strategies shaping healthcare security today.

Key Points:

  • 00:24 Identity as the New Perimeter
  • 04:09 Transition from Prevention to Resiliency
  • 09:17 Behavior Analysis in Cybersecurity
  • 12:17 Lightning Round: Personal Insights
  • 15:35 Advice for Aspiring Cybersecurity Professionals

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