This weekend’s rugby victory has again put our country on the global map for all the right reasons. International media reminded us of the unity we had when Madiba handed the Webb Ellis Cup to Springbok captain Francois Pienaar following a tense 15-12 win against New Zealand in 1995. Pienaar takes us back to that day and how Madiba surprised them by wishing them luck in the change-room and what it meant to them as the team 

Guest: Terry Oakley-Smith - Founder and CEO Diversi-T

Guest:  Brian Mhlanga – Diversity, Equity and Inclusion specialist, speaker, mediator and facilitator  

Guest: Dr Joy Owen – Head of department of anthropology at Rhodes University