Cathy invites Rabbi Neal Katz to explain the tradition of separation of church and state. A Bible scholar, Rabbi Neal gives us a crash course on what it means to serve the community, especially in elected office. Drawing on his Jewish background, Neal explains how roles and responsibilities of leadership from Old Testament times can look in our modern world. For a religious scholar, Neal is down-to-earth and never dull! A fast-paced conversation, if you're wondering how faith and politics should reflect God's nature of compassion and justice, this episode will restore your confidence to recognize true leadership when you see it.