This week Ben and Shawn start a mini series on the cheery subject of societal collapse! To start with they discuss universe 25 the mouse utopia that fell apart, and ask can that experiment be applied to our society. #podcast #comedy #debate #universe25 #communism #capitalism #society #weliveinasociety #hat PLEASE SUPPORT US ON https://www.facebook.com/DevilsAdvocatenp PLEASE SUPPORT US ON PATREON! https://www.patreon.com/Devilsadvocatenp FOLLOW US ON YOUTUBE HTTPS://youtube.com/channel/UCENj_ZKuXBT_9lTHpEqVa0g Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/1ohD6XyO5CFKI5AJewvEGn?si=HQM81kYYRp2XCTlhaLJJyA&utm_source=copy-link&dl_branch=1