Unlearning in Progress

Unlearning in Progress

By Angela Cope & Jaime WaterfieldBusinessEducationSelf-ImprovementCareers
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Unlearning in Progress episodes

  • The Psychology of Money: Why Women Struggle with Financial Confidence

    Money Series | Part 2

    In Part 2 of our Money Series, we sit down with Dr. Johanna Peetz, a professor of psychology at Carleton University whose research has explored personal spending, financial decision-making, financial confidence, and the psychology behind our everyday money behaviors. Her work helps explain something many women experience: the gap between how financially capable we actually are and how confident we feel.

    Johanna Peetz takes us beneath the numbers to explore how family, culture, identity, and societal expectations shape our relationship with money. We unpack how the meaning we attach to money can influence our behavior, why women may be more likely to question what they know, and why talking about money can be an important part of building confidence. 

    In this episode:

    • Why financial confidence and financial capability aren't always the same thing
    • How family, culture, identity, and societal expectations shape our beliefs about money
    • What money can represent beyond the numbers, from security and freedom to status and self-worth
    • Why talking about money and understanding financial language can help build confidence
    • How to become more engaged with your money without needing to become an expert 

    This conversation offers a different way to think about financial confidence, and a reminder that we may know more than we give ourselves credit for.

    30 min
  • Money, Shame & Self-Worth: Unlearning Our Financial Beliefs

    What if your relationship with money was shaped long before you earned your first paycheck?

    Welcome to Season 3 of Unlearning in Progress, where we're exploring one of life's most emotional and often taboo topics: money.

    Recording together in person from Nova Scotia, Angela and Jaime kick off the season by reflecting on their very different financial upbringings and the money beliefs they've carried into adulthood.

    From growing up with financial scarcity to being raised in a household focused on saving and financial security, they discover surprising similarities in how money has shaped their identities, careers, and sense of self-worth.

    In this episode, they explore:

    • How childhood experiences shape our money mindset.
    • The connection between money, success, and self-worth.
    • Why we feel guilt or shame around spending money.
    • How career transitions challenge our financial identity.
    • The importance of questioning inherited money beliefs.

    They also preview what's ahead this season, including conversations about the psychology of money, investing, financial confidence, and what it really means to have enough.

    Join us as we kick off a season of honest conversations about women, money, and redefining success.

    Sometimes developing a healthier relationship with money isn't about earning more. It's about unlearning what we've been taught to believe about it.

    37 min
  • Purpose, Passion, and Values: The Throughline in Life & Work

    Career Series | Part 11

    Purpose, passion and values are words we hear often when talking about career fulfillment. But what do they actually mean, and how do they work together?

    For the final episode of Season 2 and our Career Series, we sit down with Suchitra Davies-Webb, a leadership development coach, facilitator, entrepreneur and co-founder of One Degree Shift. For more than 25 years, she has worked with emerging leaders across industries, helping leaders grow from the inside out and organizations build more intentional cultures.

    Suchitra challenges us to think of purpose as our North Star, the enduring contribution and impact that runs through our lives, while our passions, roles and values can evolve with the seasons we're in. 

    Together, we explore how looking beyond your current job can reveal the through line that's been there all along.

    In this episode:

    • The difference between purpose and passion, and why it matters
    • Why your purpose is bigger than your current job
    • How strengths, energy and values contribute to career alignment
    • What depletion can tell you about misalignment
    • Why purpose needs to include something fulfilling for you
    • How to start uncovering your own through line
    • Why getting comfortable with not knowing can be part of finding what comes next

    Episode 30, our 11th Career Series conversation and the Season 2 finale. Next up: Season 3 and an entirely new conversation about money.

    Connect with Suchitra
    https://www.suchitradw.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/suchitradw/


    30 min
  • Stop Checking the Box: Rethinking Mentorship

    Career Series | Part 10

    What if the person who could change the course of your career is already willing to help, but you're the one talking yourself out of asking?

    In this episode of our Career Series, we're joined by Alexis Meruelo, founder of Business of Her and author of Getting You Ready for Power: A Woman's Guide to Building Confidence, Community, and Career Success. Together, we unpack the beliefs that keep women from building the relationships that could help them grow. 

    We talk about why asking for mentorship can feel so uncomfortable, what makes a mentoring relationship actually useful, how to know when the fit isn't right, and why one mentor was never supposed to be everything. Alexis Meruelo also shares how a mentor who discouraged one of her biggest ideas ultimately shaped the kind of mentor she wanted to become. 

    The bigger unlearning? Mentorship isn't a box to check. It's a support system to build.

    Because careers have ups, downs, pivots and moments when we question everything. And we were never meant to navigate all of them alone.

    In this episode:

    • Why we talk ourselves out of asking for mentorship
    • How to make mentorship specific and useful
    • Why your mentor network should span ages, industries and perspectives
    • When it's okay to let a mentoring relationship go
    • How to build your own career support team before you need it


    25 min
  • Starting Over Doesn't Mean Starting From Scratch

    Career Series | Part 9


    What do you do when the path you planned suddenly disappears? Jaime and Angela sit down with product-development strategist, entrepreneur, and mentor Cydney Mar, whose 45+ year career has been shaped by resilience, reinvention, and a belief that we never truly start from zero.

    After a life-changing accident ended her career as a Canadian National figure skater, Cydney rebuilt around design, eventually selling her collections on live television across eight countries and generating more than $300 million in global sales. Decades later, a near-death illness forced another unexpected pivot, leading her to found Cydney Mar Wellness and a proudly Indigenous-owned consulting practice that now mentors product founders around the world.

    But this conversation isn't about titles or accomplishments. It's about how we navigate the moments when life takes an unexpected turn, how we recognize the value of the skills we've already earned, and why starting over doesn't mean starting from scratch.

    Together, we explore:

    • Recognizing the experience and strengths you already have

    • Moving forward when the path you planned disappears

    • Turning setbacks into opportunities for growth

    • The power of reflection, journaling, and asking for help

    • Building your next chapter with the skills you've carried all along

    Whether you're considering a career change, navigating a setback, or wondering what's next, Cydney offers a powerful reminder that every chapter of your life has prepared you for the one you're about to write.

    Connect with Cydney:

    https://www.cydneymarwellness.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/cydneymarwellness/

    https://www.instagram.com/cydneymarwellness

    32 min
  • Failure Is What I Did, Not Who I Am

    Career Series | Part 8


    What if the biggest thing holding you back isn't failure itself, but what you've been taught to believe about failure?

    In this episode of the Career Series, we sit down with Rachel Franco, founder of Fail Smarter, to explore how our relationship with failure shapes our careers, confidence, decisions, and willingness to pursue meaningful change.

    Drawing from her work in innovation enablement, leadership development, and organizational transformation, Rachel shares what she observed time and again: people often leave workshops, coaching sessions, and planning meetings energized and equipped with new skills, but when it's time to take a risk, try something new, or admit something isn't working, fear takes over.

    Together, we unpack why so many of us see failure as something to avoid at all costs, how those beliefs become embedded through our experiences and workplaces, and what it means to build a healthier, more productive relationship with failure.

    Rachel also shares the principles behind her Fail Smarter Framework, a practical approach that helps individuals and teams move beyond blame, reflect more intentionally, capture lessons learned, and turn setbacks into opportunities for growth and innovation.

    One of the most powerful ideas from the conversation: "Failure is what I did, not who I am."

    Whether you're considering a career pivot, pursuing a dream you've been putting off, recovering from a setback, or simply trying to build more resilience, this episode offers a refreshing perspective: failure isn't something to fear. When approached thoughtfully, it becomes one of our greatest sources of learning, courage, and forward momentum.

    In This Episode We Discuss:

    • Why fear of failure keeps us stuck
    • How our beliefs about failure are formed
    • The difference between failure and identity
    • Psychological safety and smart risk-taking
    • Rachel's Fail Smarter Framework
    • Turning reflection into learning and action
    • Career pivots, experimentation, and self-trust
    • How to recover more quickly and confidently when things don't go as planned

    Connect with Rachel:
    https://www.fail-smarter.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelfranco/

    25 min
  • Sitting in the Unknown: Redefining Career, Purpose, and What Comes Next

    Career Series | Part 7

    In this mid-series check-in, Angela and Jaime get vulnerable about their own career transitions and what they’re learning when there is no clear roadmap for what comes next.

    One year after leaving the corporate world, Jaime reflects on building a coaching business, rediscovering parts of herself outside of work, and realizing that the next chapter may look different than she expected. She opens up about missing collaboration and being part of a team, questioning what she actually wants from work, and redefining ambition so that her career fits into her life instead of her life fitting around her career.

    Angela shares what the first five months outside of corporate have revealed about identity, purpose and the masks we wear at work. After years of defining herself through “corporate Angela,” she’s reconnecting with a part of herself she thought she had failed at decades ago: storytelling.

    Together, they explore career change, purpose, identity, ambition, fear and the uncomfortable unknown between one chapter and the next.

    Because maybe figuring out your next career move isn't always about finding the perfect job or creating the perfect plan.

    Maybe it starts with asking a different question: Who am I now and what do I actually want my life to feel like?

    32 min
  • When Survival Patterns Become Career Strengths: Knowing When to Let Go

    Career Series | Part 6

    You’re driven, capable, and the person people can count on. But you feel stressed, burned out, disconnected, or just generally off.

    In this episode of our Career Series, Jaime and Angela sit down with Lauren Golen, founder and strategic advisor, to explore the survival patterns and identities we carry into our career. From people-pleasing and perfectionism to control, overfunctioning, pushing through, and feeling like everything depends on us.

    These patterns aren’t necessarily weaknesses. In fact, they may be part of the reason you’ve been so successful. They can make you dependable, ambitious, hardworking, and someone who always gets the job done. But when those same patterns begin driving how you work, lead, and make career decisions, success can start to come at a cost.

    Lauren shares how to recognize when an old survival identity is still “running the show,” why feeling off or burned out at work may be telling us something deeper, and how we can begin letting go of the versions of ourselves we no longer need.

    We also explore the role of intuition in our careers: how to reconnect with your body when you’ve spent years pushing through what you feel, how to rebuild trust in yourself, and what it means to move toward your next chapter before you have the entire plan figured out.

    In this conversation:

    • How survival identities like people-pleasing, control, and “if I don’t do it, it won’t get done” can fuel career success, until they start costing us
    • Why Lauren asks women to thank the identity they’re ready to let go of and how separating who you are from who you learned to be creates space for something new
    • What it means to move from the constant hum of striving, proving, and earning your seat to leading from freedom, trust, and creative expression
    • How to “feel into the vision in the dark” by trusting your intuition and taking the next step in your career even when you can’t see where it will lead

    If you’ve been successful in your career but lately find yourself feeling burned out, stuck, stressed, or simply like something is off, this conversation is an invitation to look beneath the job itself and ask a different question: What patterns are you still carrying and who could you become if you finally let them go?

    Connect with Lauren
    https://www.instagram.com/laurengolen/
    https://substack.com/@laurengolen

    28 min
  • The Job Changed, But You Didn’t: The Patterns that Follow Us

    Career Series | Part 5

    You can change jobs, change companies, earn the promotion, or step into an entirely different chapter, and still find yourself facing the same patterns.

    In this episode of Unlearning in Progress, Angela and Jaime sit down with executive coach Michelle Scott to explore why career alignment isn’t only about changing what’s happening around us. Sometimes, the most important shift is the one happening within us.

    Michelle shares her own experience with burnout, first in the corporate world and later as a stay-at-home mom, and the realization that changing her circumstances didn’t change the patterns she carried with her. As she puts it, without doing the inner work, the pushing simply followed her into a new role.

    Together, they explore what it actually means to feel aligned in your career, why white space and true rest matter, how to recognize the subtle nudges telling you something needs to change, and why solving career dissatisfaction requires looking at both the external realities of work and our internal beliefs, habits, and expectations.

    In this conversation:

    * Why changing jobs doesn’t always solve what feels wrong
    * How our patterns can follow us from one role to the next
    * What career alignment actually looks and feels like
    * Why white space is necessary, not indulgent
    * How to recognize the “nudge” before it becomes a steamroller
    * The relationship between inner work and practical career strategy
    * How slowing down can help you hear your own intuition again

    If you’ve been wondering whether you need a new job, a new career, or simply a different way of showing up in the one you already have, this conversation might help you ask a different question.

    Connect with Michelle:
    https://michellescottcoaching.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-scott-coaching/
    https://www.facebook.com/michellescottcoaching/
    https://www.instagram.com/coachmichellescott/

    27 min
  • Beyond the Dream Job: Finding Purpose in Your Next Chapter

    Career Series | Part 4

    Over the last few episodes, we've explored career crossroads, the factors that influence career growth, and how to identify work that energizes you. In this episode, we bring those concepts to life through the story of Amy Peterson, co-founder and CEO of Rebel Nell.  


    Amy spent years pursuing a childhood dream of working in professional baseball. After building a successful career with the Detroit Tigers, she found herself wrestling with an internal tug toward something different, one that became increasingly difficult to ignore. 


    Together, we explore what it feels like when your passions evolve, how to distinguish between running away from something and being called toward something new, and why passion is often what sustains us through the hardest parts of building a career or business. Amy shares her experience navigating uncertainty, identity shifts, and the decision to pursue work that felt deeply aligned with what mattered most to her. 


    Whether you're questioning your next move or simply feeling pulled toward something you can't quite explain, this conversation offers a thoughtful framework for understanding what that tug might be trying to tell you. 

    In This Episode, We Discuss:

    • What happens when a long-held career path no longer feels aligned  
    • How to evaluate the "internal tug" toward something new  
    • The difference between escaping a situation and following a calling  
    • Why passion is essential when taking a career risk  
    • The reality that passions can evolve throughout different seasons of life  
    • Amy's advice for anyone considering a major career shift


    Learn more about Rebel Nell: 

    Rebel Nell

    Instagram (@rebelnell)

    22 min

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