Rev. Jacquie Fernández talks to Bernadette Pleasant, founder and CEO of The Emotional Institute and creator of Femme! (a mind-body wellness program), 400 Years (a somatic-based anti-racism program), and Sacred Grief Ritual. Pleasant channels her personal journeys and radical empathy into transformative, immersive experiences that support and celebrate people of all genders, colors, ages, and sizes, inspiring them to express themselves and become empowered as their own badass selves.