Hosts Rachel Tausendfreund and Peter Sparding talk with GMF Senior Fellow and Director of the Asia and Future of Geopolitics programs Jamie Fly, a long-time Republican foreign policy hand, about U.S. foreign policy in the unpredictable first

Unleashed or Unhinged?  One Year of U.S. Global Leadership Under President Trump

Out of Order is a German Marshall Fund podcast about how our world was, is, and will be ordered.

 From the way the pandemic is shaping geopolitics; to the dark side of tech for democracy; to the political movements, elections and uprisings changing global governance; the podcast brings together international experts from inside and outside of GMF to help us understand our disordered world.

In addition to Out of Order episodes, GMF also produces topical mini-series including Post-Pandemic Order and Frontlines of Democracy. All of GMF’s podcast content, along with audio from select special events, can be found in the Out of Order stream. 

For more information on the German Marshall Fund, visit us at www.gmfus.org

Out of Order is a German Marshall Fund podcast about how our world was, is, and will be ordered. From the way the pandemic is shaping geopolitics; to the dark side of tech for democracy; to the political movements, elections and uprisings changing global governance; the podcast brings together international experts from inside and outside of GMF to help us understand our disordered world. In addition to Out of Order episodes, GMF also produces topical mini-series including Post-Pandemic Order and Frontlines of Democracy. All of GMF’s podcast content, along with audio from select special events, can be found in the Out of Order stream. For more information on the German Marshall Fund, visit us at www.gmfus.org

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