Jack and I both used to drink too much! Then we found Magic. This is a little bit of a departure from form for the show! We talk about our experiences finding Magic in the early days of sobriety and why protecting the things that bring you joy is important in recovery and in everyday life.

While nothing terribly edgy gets talked about in this episode, we do play it pretty fast and loose discussing drinking, drugs, and addiction. If that's not your cup of tea, I'd recommend skipping this one!