In this subscribers-only episode of Paranoid History, I interview historian John Lisle about his new book Project Mind Control: Sidney Gottlieb, the CIA, and the Tragedy of MKULTRA. Lisle discusses his discovery of never-before-seen depositions from the 1980s, revealing new insights into the CIA's infamous mind control experiments. The conversation explores the real history of MKULTRA, separating fact from fiction, and examining how genuine government misconduct has spawned unfounded conspiracy theories.

John Lisle is a historian and author of Project Mind Control and The Dirty Tricks Department. His work focuses on uncovering the hidden history of American intelligence operations through meticulous archival research. Lisle teaches at the University of Texas.

His website is: https://johnlislehistorian.com/

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