In this episode, hosts Leslie Giddings and Dannielle Samuel sit down with their associate and first-time guest, Alex De Zorzi, to explore the transformative power of wilderness therapy. As an experienced wilderness adventure therapist, Alex shares how nature acts as a bridge for building deeper connections between parents and children. Together, they discuss the importance of facing shared challenges in the wild and how they can help unlock the present experience, beyond seeking escape in the past or the next thing.