In this conversation, Chuck Tuck and Roxanne delve into the concept of internal logic and how it influences our automatic behaviors and choices in life. They explore the Enneagram as a tool for understanding personal patterns and the importance of awareness in breaking free from automatic responses. The discussion emphasizes the need for self-discovery, permission to change, and the quest for emotional fulfillment beyond societal definitions of success. In this conversation, Roxanne Howe Murphy discusses the complexities of self-discovery, the impact of inner logic on personal behavior, and the importance of pausing for reflection. She explores themes of caregiving, control, and the Enneagram as a tool for understanding oneself. The conversation emphasizes the need for quiet and connection with nature as a means to reclaim one's true self and navigate life's challenges.

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