Un.mute session about Indonesian sunrise, nationalism, and the art of connecting the dot. Chatib Basri was once the Minister of Finance of the Republic of Indonesia or as the man would say, he was once in public service. Sitting with me today, Pak Chatib is an Indonesian Economist, writer, educator, and philanthropist. In this episode specifically, he talks about keeping up with the youth, the importance of having a critical thinking, and Indonesia in 2045. Listen to today’s unmute podcast to know why you should ask a deeper why question in order to thrive better in life and what it takes to leave a remarkable legacy for Indonesia. Say hola to us @claudiahjohan @chatibbasri.